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Dr. Franken Stein ([personal profile] iscrewtothink) wrote2008-12-18 01:04 am
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[CFUW - Locked to Medusa, Jack, & Rose]

An exchange of dialogue is probably better than running on what's said out in the open, wouldn't you agree?

[identity profile] captaincy.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 07:14 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds like a good idea to me. So, all my offers of vouching for you and I'm the guy in the clue.

[identity profile] charmer-snake.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
"Offers of vouching for you"?

[identity profile] captaincy.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 07:26 am (UTC)(link)
I thought people might use your ... reputation as 'proof' of your wolfiness. Stein and I had a little discussion about you.

[identity profile] charmer-snake.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 07:30 am (UTC)(link)
Did you, now. My significant-pause reputation? Apart from whatever Stein says about me, I assure you my reputation is fine. Not that it has anything to do with whether we're wolves, either way.

[identity profile] captaincy.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 07:39 am (UTC)(link)
Sorta a your-plural, a lot of people around here will vote just because they've met Stein in Camp and don't trust him. People vote for dumb, biased reasons. Part of the peril of being a sheep is having your fellow woolies turn against you.

[identity profile] charmer-snake.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
It's true that that is a dumb, biased reason to vote for someone. But it's also no reason to defend someone - if you're a sheep, we could very well be wolves, for all you know.

[identity profile] captaincy.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 07:49 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I'm not arguing you're not wolves. You'd probably make pretty good ones. Just that if you were in a clue and people started using baseless justification, I'd have something to say about it.

But this really doesn't shed any light on whether or not Rose and I are sheep.

[identity profile] charmer-snake.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 07:54 am (UTC)(link)
On the contrary, it might help shed some light. If you're wolves, you could have a lot to gain from defending a sheep team that's likely to be grateful for the help. More than you would if you were sheep defending a team of dubious innocence.

[identity profile] captaincy.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 08:00 am (UTC)(link)
Grateful... [ seems somewhat amused. ] I guess that makes sense in theory, but it's not that complicated, I'm just willing to stand up for Stein.

[identity profile] charmer-snake.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 08:05 am (UTC)(link)
For certain values of 'grateful', of course.

My, how sweet. Even if it jeopardizes your chances of winning?

[identity profile] captaincy.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 08:08 am (UTC)(link)
[ ...doesn't want to answer that queeeestioooon. ]

[identity profile] charmer-snake.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 08:13 am (UTC)(link)
[looks you over a bit as you don't answer]

Hm-mm?

[identity profile] captaincy.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 08:23 am (UTC)(link)
Look, I don't care if it implicates me, think what you want. I'm not answering that. Next question.

[identity profile] charmer-snake.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 08:26 am (UTC)(link)
Fine.

Do you know many of the other players from before the game?

[identity profile] captaincy.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
My partner, Rose, and you two — of course. Tokitoh, the guy who got eaten, he was in the last game of this I played. Robert Haydn's a friend of mine, and his partner Peter Petrelli I've spoken to once or twice. And I think once that stuttering guy caused me to speak in haiku....

[identity profile] charmer-snake.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 08:37 am (UTC)(link)
I'm only acquainted with you and of course Stein, myself. Can you tell me anything about the others? How they act outside of the game. I wouldn't want to develop baseless suspicions due to something that's just a normal mannerism.
Edited 2008-12-18 08:39 (UTC)

[identity profile] captaincy.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 08:43 am (UTC)(link)
Robert's, uh, he's a little blunt. He's smart, though, and kinda... dark. He'd definitely make a good wolf. I don't know that much about Peter, I think he's the earnest heroic sort, and probably wouldn't make a good wolf at all.

[identity profile] iscrewtothink.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
I still appreciate the offer. Though you understand with you being in the clue, I won't be able to do much if people determine you are the wolf.

[identity profile] captaincy.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 07:24 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I figure. It'd be stupid to ally with someone who was unsafe. But hey, I plan on determining who the real wolf is, and I could use your help in that.

[identity profile] iscrewtothink.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 07:26 am (UTC)(link)
Trading information and the like is what I was counting on. Though of course, this exchange of information does also involve my interrogating you, and I'd rather not have to resort to the more unfriendly manners, Captain.

[identity profile] captaincy.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
I actually have a little strategy I was meaning to propose. Last time Emiri and I played this game, we chatted with individual members of a team to make sure what they said in private added up. But I was thinking, since Rose isn't around, maybe it could work in reverse; if both of us talked with the same teams and compared notes, it might prove interesting.

But hey, right now we're talking my innocence. Just what do you plan to do in this interrogation?

[identity profile] iscrewtothink.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 07:38 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds like a plan, if we can determine your innocence in the matter.

And as to that... to be honest, Captain, I am not entirely sure. It's part of the reason why, despite knowing the problems that may arise because of it, I asked Medusa to accompany.

Starting simply, did you vote on the suspicion round? I know neither you nor Rose voted during the official ousting.

[identity profile] captaincy.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
Well, if I get voted out or eaten, keep it in mind.

We didn't. Or, I didn't, though Rose might've without me, but if she'd wanted to place a suspicion vote, I think she would've let me know, even if it was after the fact. The last time I checked there were only the three votes up; that guy who misvoted, the Killer Skin team, and Rose and I — though we uh, picked that team name after the vote on it.

[identity profile] iscrewtothink.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 07:51 am (UTC)(link)
Will do.

Why did you choose a name with a vote already on it?

[identity profile] captaincy.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 07:57 am (UTC)(link)
I kinda didn't. I expressed an interest while trying to get people to 'fess up to the three suspicion votes, mainly 'cause I wasn't interested in donating all my money to uh, 'the Glorious Organization every time there was roll call. Next time someone posted the list, that's who we were.

[identity profile] iscrewtothink.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 08:07 am (UTC)(link)
The disorganization of that first round is really going to make things more difficult than necessary.

All right, but was there anyone who stood out or seemed more suspicious to you?

[identity profile] captaincy.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 08:22 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, I think an eye should be kept on the team who 'misvoted'. Maybe it's genuine incompetence, but they could do really well if they let Capell look bungling and then Hotstreak could get some sympathy. It's not evidence, but if they're wolves it's a good strategy.

I was thinking that Tokitoh was being overly helpful; usually wolves tend to try and help out in the early clues to prove their innocence. But uh, I guess the wolves thought so too, so that's a dead end...

I don't really have a lot of other opinions so far. The other person in the clue, Yukari, has been around even less than us, but that could be a ruse. And the Shepherd was complaining that the wolves weren't being active, right?

[identity profile] iscrewtothink.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 08:27 am (UTC)(link)
Seems like it. Another fact that doesn't much help your standing, considering.

But I was thinking the same about Tokitoh in that he was being overly helpful and was more than suspicious. Guess we've got confirmation on his status, however.

As for the blundering pair, I really don't think either of them are clever enough to come up with the scheme on their own. If another wolf were to suggest the idea, however, it would be more plausible. At the time, however, both Medusa and I thought that Hyuuga and his partner were the more suspicious of the two. Especially given their reactions when going up to vote.

[identity profile] captaincy.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 08:50 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I know, but I'm not trying to make myself look good, I'm trying to help you work out who the wolves are. And you're right. Even if it implicates me, I wasn't around for voting. I know it's supposed to be random, but I thought maybe the shepherds might have tried to help us by picking at least one wolf to go up, but the argument is better for the ousted team. I hope you were right, though, if Capell and Hotstreak are sheep they're pretty useless ones.

[identity profile] iscrewtothink.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 09:04 am (UTC)(link)
Well, what's done is done. We can only go forward from here.

Captain, even though you claim to not have picked the name until the vote was already on it, the fact still remains that you were voted on in the suspicion poll and are now in the clue. Is there anything you think you could tell me that would at least put that suspicion on one of the others?

[identity profile] captaincy.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 09:17 am (UTC)(link)
I dunno why I should have any more information than everyone else. Here's (http://community.livejournal.com/cryfuckuwolf/255663.html?thread=31488943&style=mine#t31488943) how I ended up with a suspicion vote, though.

I really haven't seen this Yukari person speak at all, so I can't say anything for or against her. The other one, Takano, clearly wants to be considered a sheep, but otherwise isn't exactly wordy. I haven't been able to talk to them and I won't make stuff up. If you still think I'm a wolf and vote me out, well. I gotta admit, I'll be disappointed we didn't get to work together, but at this point there's not much I can do to sway you.

[identity profile] iscrewtothink.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 09:25 am (UTC)(link)
... you did say you played the game before. As a matter of curiosity, do the shepherds normally just give one clue per voting round?

[identity profile] captaincy.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 09:41 am (UTC)(link)
The shepherds do whatever the hell they want. The last time I played there was a points system, so sometimes we'd have a couple of challenges and that might get us a puzzle to solve or just 'stars', which could be used to determine whether a team was a sheep or a wolf. Why? You think the cheeseburger thing might turn out to be relevant after all?

[identity profile] iscrewtothink.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 09:48 am (UTC)(link)
The cheeseburger bit was interesting in that it pointed to Alfred and Matthew. And Alfred had mentioned that he had played a game before this one that involved people actually dying when the wolves killed sheep. He made a big fuss over playing the game again at the beginning until he was reassured that sort of thing wouldn't happen. So it would prove interesting if that clue did have something to it. But chances are it doesn't since one of the shepherds really were harassing him to give her cheeseburgers.

To be honest, I was just wondering if they were just going to leave us with doing all the investigative work to sort out who is who or not.

[identity profile] captaincy.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 09:54 am (UTC)(link)
After this round, they might tell you 'you still haven't caught a wolf' or something like that. Normally the clues are harder than just handing over the names, too, but these Shepherds are unpredictable. In the beginning it's mostly guesswork anyway, but the stuff that happens now tends to make for good evidence later in the game.